Why Aren’t All Buddhists Vegetarian?
COMMENT on Nov. 22, 2022: As I learn about Buddhism to incorporate aspects of it into my Christianity, I am a bit befuddled about the proper attitude towards one of the eight noble truths, which is to practice kindness towards all sentient beings. Not sure how I feel about not killing insects. LOL I kill them readily if I see them and my apartment requires pest control. So, does this mean we don’t kill bed bugs? I may decide to give the lady bugs a break. LOL If I see a roach, he’s DEAD. LOL I can kind of see the point about not killing animals. Any ways, the following article (see below) seems to show a healthy approach to this noble truth, for those striving to combine Christianity with Buddhism. Jesus himself, is not a vegetarian and even said a vegetarian diet is not healthy. That being said, I was raised on Asian (particularly Japanese) cuisine and tend to enjoy a lot of their food, which often uses less meat. We can use replicators to make meat and that could help us be kinder to animals though. We are already doing that with poultry since Satan’s followers killed all the birds. Satan is definitely not a good Buddhist! But I have never been a vegetarian and neither was my Japanese mother and she had a Buddha statue in her room.
DISCORD on July 9, 2021 (Satan is definitely not a good Buddhist):
Doge David Argenti-Loredan, UE — 07/09/2021
https://www.gabriellechana.blog/2021/07/09/jesus-as-a-hawk-blue-jay-buzzard/
Gail Chord Schuler — 07/09/2021
Thank you, Doge!
Doge David Argenti-Loredan, UE — 07/09/2021
You’re welcome, Gail!
Amazing, heart-warming video. Everyone should give this a look.
You are a lucky woman to have caught this on film!
Klock — 07/09/2021
https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/mystery-plague-killing-countless-birds-9-states-and-washington-dc-has-gotten-lot-worse
ZeroHedge
The Mystery Plague That Is Killing Countless Birds In 9 States And …
…and scientists still have absolutely no idea why this is happening.
Rule13 — 07/09/2021
All birds in the world dead!
[8:37 PM]
Perhaps, this article is old news.
[8:37 PM]
It is sad, that birds are not real.
Gail Chord Schuler — 07/09/2021
When did this happen?
Rule13 — 07/09/2021
Weeks ago, last birds to die.
@Klock
https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/mystery-plague-killing-countless-birds-9-states-and-washington-dc-has-gotten-lot-worse
Doge David Argenti-Loredan, UE — 07/09/2021
Oh wow! That’s exactly what Gail and I were talking about!
birds worldwide are dropping like flies!
Gail Chord Schuler — 07/09/2021
Did this happen because Jesus appeared as a bird?
Rule13 — 07/09/2021
Yes.
@Rule13
Weeks ago, last birds to die.
Doge David Argenti-Loredan, UE — 07/09/2021
All of them?
Gail Chord Schuler — 07/09/2021
Yes.
Rule13 — 07/09/2021
This is why, Jesus cannot interfere too much.
@Gail Chord Schuler
Yes.
Doge David Argenti-Loredan, UE — 07/09/2021
So sad
@Gail Chord Schuler
Yes.
Doge David Argenti-Loredan, UE — 07/09/2021
So sad
Gail Chord Schuler — 07/09/2021
I wonder why Jesus showed up then?
[8:38 PM]
As a bird, I mean. . .
[8:38 PM]
Will the birds come back?
Rule13 — 07/09/2021
We do not know!
[8:39 PM]
We may have to start from scratch from dinosaurs.
Gail Chord Schuler — 07/09/2021
We don’t have any eagles, either?
Rule13 — 07/09/2021
No birds.
[8:39 PM]
This includes, penguins in the arctic!
Gail Chord Schuler — 07/09/2021
What about Thanksgiving?
Rule13 — 07/09/2021
We can make synthetic bird meat.
[8:40 PM]
So, we can still eat chicken and turkey.
Gail Chord Schuler — 07/09/2021
Yeah, I love my chicken.
@Rule13
So, we can still eat chicken and turkey.
Doge David Argenti-Loredan, UE — 07/09/2021
Is there a surplus of Butterball and frozen meat too?
Rule13 — 07/09/2021
Perhaps we can eat tuna?! It is chicken of the sea?
@Rule13
We can make synthetic bird meat.
Doge David Argenti-Loredan, UE — 07/09/2021
Thank goodness for that!
Remember that at Thanksgiving
Rule13 — 07/09/2021
Semen is my main source of protein.
[8:42 PM]
Yes, synthetic chicken still good.
Gail Chord Schuler — 07/09/2021
Same nutritional benefits as real chicken?
Rule13 — 07/09/2021
Yep. Also, eggs.
[8:43 PM]
Tastes like chicken!
[8:43 PM]
Yes.
Doge David Argenti-Loredan, UE — 07/09/2021
Really?
And if it’s like the synthetic beef…one needn’t worry
Regarding the birds, we tried bringing them back, but the current Jesuits seem to like the status quo and have defeated our efforts thus far. If you’ll notice, synthetic chicken meat is drier than real chicken and some blacks got real upset that their fried chicken didn’t taste as good. So I made a fried chicken recipe for them:
So here’s the article about why some Buddhists are not vegetarian:
Why Some Buddhists Are Not Vegetarian
Buddhism is widely known for its teachings of non-violence, even towards animals. So how is it possible that such a religion would not require vegetarianism?
Nicholas Liusuwan, Contributor
Buddhism writer, Buddhist American, Meditation Enthusiast
May 3, 2016, 05:44 PM EDT| Updated Dec 6, 2017
This post was published on the now-closed HuffPost Contributor platform. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site.
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In a previous article, I discussed a few stereotypes that surround Buddhism. One of which was the idea of vegetarianism. As I explained in the previous entry, vegetarianism in Buddhism depends on the sect, and many sects do not require or even encourage it. It is even generally agreed that the Buddha himself and his monks ate meat.
But that just raises further questions. Buddhism is widely known for its teachings of non-violence, even towards animals. So how is it possible that such a religion would not require vegetarianism?
Monasticism
To see why this is the case let’s start with the monastics. Excluding most schools of Mahayana Buddhism, Buddhist monastics will usually eat meat. A part of this has to do with the Buddha’s requirement that the Sangha, or monastic community, live off the generosity of the laypeople.
The purpose of this requirement has to do with both convenience and compassion.
It is obviously more convenient and conducive to mental cultivation for a monk to simply live off the food given by others than it is for them to cook their own food. Not only does it save time, it frees the mind from the worry of having to prepare or choose what to make.
The other reason is compassion. The Law of Karma is a huge part of Buddhism, and finding stories in the Pali Canon of compassionate monks looking for people in need to accept food from is not uncommon. Providing the laypeople with a source of merit, or good karma, is a major reason the Buddha had this requirement for the Sangha.
The Buddhist scriptures actually describe the Sangha as the “Anuttaram puññakkhettam lokassa”, or the “incomparable merit field of the world”. So requiring the Sangha to live off the generosity of others was the best way to make use of this detail.
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This requirement did change in some later sects of Buddhism however, mostly due to cultural differences. In many schools of Mahayana Buddhism for instance, the Sangha is encouraged to be self-sufficient, a bit of a 180 degree turn from what the Buddha requested, but makes sense considering begging wasn’t considered a very noble livelihood in ancient China.
So why can’t monks simply request vegetarian food?
The reason for this is has to do with convenience for the laypeople. The Sangha is supposed to make themselves easy to support, and that includes not being picky about food, although monastics are to refuse accepting certain foods for a variety of reasons.
A few examples of such are meat; if they see, hear, or suspect the animal was killed specifically for them or if it is a type of meat the Buddha forbade monks to accept, such as human or tiger meat to name a few.
Also, just keep in mind; it would be awfully rude if a faithful but poor family saved up to buy meat at the market to offer to a monk, only to get rejected because the monk doesn’t want to eat meat.
Laypeople
So what of the laypeople? After all, Buddhist laypeople can choose what they eat, so why are they able to eat meat?
I remember one Theravada monk explain this to me using a pretty good example. Suppose a tiger was to kill a deer, and then ate part of it and left. Then, a vulture flies by and eats the remainder of the deer. Is the vulture responsible for the deer’s death?
Long story short, there is no bad karma in being the scavenger in Buddhism, but there is in being the hunter. The act of eating meat is separate from the act of killing, and you don’t necessarily have to kill to eat meat. In the Amagandha Sutta, the Buddha recalls his predecessor making this very point about these two acts being separate, and whether or not you’re a vegetarian will have no effect on bringing you closer to achieving Nirvana.
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This is the basis of why it is okay to eat meat in Buddhism. Buying meat at the market constitutes being a scavenger, and it’s better to make use of the meat rather than having the animal die just to have its flesh thrown away.
As for those who say not buying meat reduces the killing of animals, this is a good point to make, but not an all-encompassing point. There is a famous story in the Buddha’s life where he was at a festival as a child. During the festival, the young prince caught a glimpse of a farmer plowing his field to plant crops. The observant prince noticed that as the farmer plowed the field, it exposed and killed numerous worms and insects in the ground, causing the prince to feel great compassion for the small creatures.
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While the supply and demand effects of buying less meat would shift killing away from livestock, the consumption of crops also leads to the loss of life, even if accidental or indirectly. Not to mention, in today’s world many farmers use pesticides to protect their crops, a deliberate act of killing. Horrible as it may be, this is just the world we live in, and it’s best not to focus too much on things out of our control. Being a vegetarian doesn’t make you good, and not being one doesn’t make you bad.
Just to be clear, if you’re a vegetarian, that doesn’t mean you should quit after reading this article. The purpose of this article is solely to explain the reasons as to why some Buddhists don’t consider vegetarianism necessary. Some sects of Buddhism do encourage vegetarianism for various reasons and some don’t, but just because a sect doesn’t actively encourage it doesn’t mean it’s discouraged.
Just because there are no “spiritual” benefits to vegetarianism doesn’t mean the lifestyle has no benefits. While the Buddha made it clear that being a scavenger isn’t direct enough to be considered killing, vegetarianism is essentially a personal choice that has a host of health and environmental benefits even for Buddhists of non-vegetarian traditions.