Why I Think Lizzo Has BPD and Severe Narcissism
UPDATE on Feb. 5, 2023: The one who is mentally ill is Lizzo. CORRECTION IN MY VIDEO. LIZZO’S BRAIN CONTROL CAUSED ME TO CORRECT A STATEMENT I MADE IN THERE WRONGLY, AND THIS IS WHAT I REALLY MEANT TO SAY:
I feel Lizzo is mentally ill because she kills those who stand for true love and in my opinion anyone who opposes true love to try to be a “savior” is definitely living in a DELUSIONAL WORLD. This is because people like Lizzo believe the delusion that true love does not exist (it does) and they believe the delusion that they are somehow superior for having the strength to face this depressing fact (actually a lie), that true love does not exist. So they think they are somehow superior for having the strength to find happiness in something less than true love. Can’t you see how crazy this is (because their happiness is based on delusional thinking about themselves and the world around them)? Therefore, the true mentally ill person is Lizzo and those who think like her.
Correction to a statement I made in my YouTube video, where I said, “Anyone who opposes true love to try and be a ‘savior’ is definitely living in a delusional world (to her).” I added the “to her” in later, as a result of Lizzo’s brain control.
I will put in italics below, what I suspect are Lizzo’s problems. I believe that both LIzzo and I were raised by a narcissist. I’m not sure what kind of narcissist parent Lizzo had. In my case I suffered from both abuse and neglect. As a result of the abuse and neglect I endured, I developed a VERY WEAK CASE of BPD and I mainly became a co-dependent, who got my feeling of worth from those who seemed to be superior where I considered myself weak.
Like Lizzo, I developed a strong fear of abandonment. The main difference between me and Lizzo is that I did NOT become a narcissist at all and did not have a need to control others. I basically felt unworthy to try and control anyone else, as I perceived most people to be morally superior to me. The only exception being those who I felt shared the same weaknesses I felt I had, where I was criticized as being just like my selfish, cold dad. I just had a very low self-esteem and I tended to neglect myself and not properly take care of myself and let the narcissist in my life control me and tried to get my feelings of worth from them. I needed the narcissist to make me feel worthy. Eventually, I broke free from this cycle, when Brent came into my life and convinced me that I wasn’t the loser that my narcissist mother said I was and that I didn’t need to be a co-dependent to a narcissist to find my worth. I spent most of my young life, trying to prove that I was not a selfish, cold girl and overcompensated in that direction.
About the only trait I had that was BPD, was the fear of abandonment. I do recall that before Brent came into my life, I could get very angry when I suffered narcissistic abuse and lash out at the abuser, who would then totally humiliate me, and then I’d be convinced I was all the bad things they said about me. I’d apologize and just conclude I was doomed to be the selfish, cold girl my mom always said I was. As a result of this, I became depressed. Like I said, I no longer have this problem. I also had the BPD tendency to put on different identities, in order to find my acceptable self and would lose myself into various groups that I felt excelled where I was weak to convince myself (thus aligning myself with a very strict, Puritanical Christian group) I was not like my dad, who my mother said abandoned her for a younger woman.
Lizzo appears to have suffered neglect growing up and also had a strong fear of abandonment. Though I did not grow up in a rich family, I think I was in a better financial situation than Lizzo. So I think part of her problem was the black poverty that she grew up in. I think she sees her black culture as one that does not promote stable and happy relationships and is in a sort of rebellion against it. She has become “whitified”. My guess is she may have gone without food at times, growing up. This never happened to me as a child. This may have contributed to her obesity. She sees food as a status symbol and eats it as a form of comfort. She is apparently very ashamed of growing up as a “poor black”. My guess is that the parent that neglected Lizzo, did so to cater to rich sex clients who paid the bills and put food on the table. So Lizzo had concluded that the only way to ensure stability in her love life is to be rich and financially independent. She seems to be very angry at those she blames for the fact she grew up in black poverty.
I’m still trying to figure out why she’s so obsessed with me. She, apparently, sees me as exemplifying all the reasons she grew up in black poverty, which she is apparently very angry about. She seems to think I belong to some unfair, privileged class and, therefore, deserve all the abuse and wrath she heaps upon me. It appears her “beef” is with the government, how it’s run and she blames black poverty on unfair government practices. Because Brent and I are the current U.S. heads of state, this may explain why her rage is directed at me and my men. She blames us for black poverty.
Here’s where the BPD kicks in. Because Brent and I have actually improved the living situation of many blacks, among other people, we have Church of Gail cities and are striving to ensure everyone has food and financial security. If she wasn’t mentally ill, she could see this and she would be grateful.
I believe because she was neglected and possibly abused growing up, she felt like she didn’t matter and she has become obsessed with proving how important she is and how much her life matters. She gorges herself on food to prove that she is no longer a “poor black”, which she is apparently very ashamed of. She has also become obsessed with living the rich and famous lifestyle, which explains her desire to become a music star and live the rich and famous lifestyle.
She sees her “fatness” as a status symbol, because it shows she is no longer a poor black and, therefore, “fat” is beautiful. Her fatness gives her a feeling of power, away from the helplessness and insignificance she felt as a child. She no longer has to endure times with no food. She doesn’t need a sugar daddy to keep her alive, and she’s DAMN PROUD of this. Who cares about fatness, when you’re this powerful and rich, you’re beautiful, because you don’t need no SUGAR DADDY!
She’s fully aware that her current beau is in it only for the money he gets from her, but she doesn’t care, because she’s concluded that true love doesn’t exist and people are only in it for the money any ways. Anyone who concludes otherwise is either mentally ill or just greedy or abusive and playing games. She has concluded with satisfaction that she got where she’s at because of her work ethic and overcoming her background of black poverty. When any one even INSINUATES that she is anything like the poor black she grew up as, she gets furious! This includes attacking her “poor black” diet and preferences.
Now how her BPD is playing out is this. She has created a false self based on being rich, famous and important and drowned her true self (whatever that is) as something too shameful to think about. The main difference between me and LIzzo is that I have never been obsessed about money and fame and she is. My narcissist parent turned me into an apathetic co-dependent, who got my worth from losing my identity into someone I perceived superior to me. Lizzo’s narcissist parent turned her into a driven, controlling, obsessed narcissist with BPD fears of abandonment. In her determination to never be a poor black ever again, she rages at anyone who might block her wealth and power. Lizzo feels she has finally gotten what she damn well deserved her entire life. And if the black culture that raised her doesn’t like it, they can GO TO HELL as far as she’s concerned. Since she believes the reason she will never be dumped is because she is so rich, no one would dare dump her, because they need her money too much.
The reason she and Satan get along is because they both don’t believe in the existence of true love and think that is a fairy tale concocted by the abusers in power who use it as a means to control those under them.
She’s so caught up in proving that she’s not a poor black and didn’t deserve the poverty upbringing she had, that she has forgotten to be a human being and totally lacks empathy for ANYONE who appears to be part of the power structure that caused her to grow up in black poverty. Her “solution” is to destroy the current power structure and be the boss herself, because, hell, she’s so rich and famous, she obviously is the answer.
Basically, taking out “good” people is seen as a means to an end, a way to correct a sick society that promotes the social structure that caused her to grow up in black poverty. To her, you’re only good if you serve her goal of destroying the current, corrupt power structure and she has no tolerance for weakness in this regard. Apparently, Satan has promised that all who follow him will be rich and never have to worry about finances, and since Lizzo does not believe in the existence of true love, she reasons, “What the hell is wrong with that?”
LIke a typical BPD, she has not done a lot of deep thinking, but is so obsessed with proving she’s not a poor black and therefore will never need a sugar daddy, she’s forgotten to be a human being!
Even though she really doesn’t think I’m a bad person, in a sense, I’m evil because I promote the evil system that must be abolished. The fact that someone with my talents and brains could be so poor, only indicates that I must be mentally ill. Because I’m part of the power structure, it means I HAVE TO GO. Lizzo is on a mission to correct societal ills, not realizing that a world without love is not worth saving!! Far better to destroy the entire multiverse than have one without true love. But Lizzo can’t see this, because she’s so obsessed with proving her worth as one who will never need a sugar daddy, that she can’t see past her nose!!
What good does it do to have a “stable” relationship, if your lover does not love you, Lizzo! Think on that Lizzo retard. Yeah, he won’t dump you Lizzo cuz he only cares about your money and this does not matter to you? And you say, I’m the one who’s mentally ill? LOL
A stable, low quality relationship is not worth living or dying for. Lizzo RETARD.
I have stable, high quality relationships, based on true love. My lovers would die for me. What about your lovers, Lizzo. Would anyone ever die for you?
I doubt it, because underneath it all, they only care about money and fame. So, you get to live forever as famous and rich and you think this is happiness? Perhaps, if you were not so certain that one needed riches to keep a lover, you would see that there have been many in human history who have had wonderful, meaningful relationships while poor their entire life. But, they won’t be poor in the next life, RETARD.
I will put in italics below, what I feel shows Lizzo’s BPD. Anything in bold, is true of me, and is why I can understand her. I suffered a very weak case of BPD growing up. I thought so low of myself that I didn’t have the energy to be a strong BPD.
Both Lizzo and I did suffer from delusional thinking. My delusional thinking was feeling that everyone was superior to me and that I was inferior. Lizzo’s delusional thinking is that everyone is inferior to her and that she is superior. Neither extreme is healthy. So I catered to my supposed inferiority to correct wrongs and gain stable relationships. LIzzo caters to her supposed superiority to correct wrongs and gain stable relationships. LIzzo has a need to believe she is superior (she has strong narcissist traits) to cover up for a deep rooted feeling of inferiority. The BPD shows itself in her food addictions, because this is actually a form of self-harm or a slow course of suicide. I used to have a need to be a co-dependent, to gain my self worth by losing myself into a superior person.
How Borderline Personality Disorder Impacts Relationships
Ben learns he is not allowed to take personal calls during business hours at his new job at a strict government agency. His supervisor gives him an emergency number so family members can reach him when absolutely necessary.
The news immediately fills him with dread. Ben’s daughter, Lisa, has borderline personality disorder. She calls him a few times a week, often while he’s at work. A supportive and understanding father, Ben was happy to chat with her at his old office where there were no limitations on phone calls.
Now he has to inform his daughter that their mid-week check ins will need to be less frequent and occur only in the evening. With noticeable reluctance, he provides the emergency number to Lisa.
The next day Lisa dials the number during Ben’s lunch break. Before picking up, Ben already knows who it is and what is going on. Lisa is fine. There is no crisis.
Ben tries to suppress the frustration in his voice, but Lisa can hear how upset he is. She simply wanted to make sure he would pick up if she was in trouble. She doesn’t get what the big deal is.
Ben is frustrated. He shouts. He is already wilting under the glare from a supervisor.
Lisa snaps. The love she has for her father is no longer on her mind, as if it it had never existed at all. Intense indignation takes its place. She screams. Threatens to harm herself, makes him feel guilty for long-past wrongs.
She hangs up. The dial tone ringing in Ben’s ears, he panics about what she might do next.
Lisa’s relationship with her father is actually one of the healthier ones she has. Nonetheless, she is still struggling to manage the symptoms of a difficult, often misunderstood mental health condition, often characterized by an inability to control anger.
Ben and Lisa’s story illustrates a few aspects of how borderline personality disorder [BPD] tends to impact relationships. Even for those closest to a BPD sufferer, it can be difficult to remain compassionate and patient in the face of such volatile behavior. By learning more about the condition and watching out for common relational dilemmas, both sufferers and their loved ones can take steps toward building healthier bonds.
People with borderline personality disorder tend to have trouble understanding and respecting boundaries. Like Lisa, they often push limits. Psychologist Daniel S. Lobel, Ph.D. and author of “When Your Daughter Has BPD,” mentioned some common examples he encountered in his work:
- Borrowing clothing from family members and roommates without asking
- Taking cash from wallets of family members
- Not respecting boundaries around sleep
- Asking about intimate details that are not appropriate to discuss
Because those afflicted with the mental illness often do not instinctively grasp social restrictions, loved ones need to establish detailed boundaries and enforce them without exception. Even when family members and romantic partners of people with BPD are tired and tempted to yield to a request that violates a rule, they need to be resolute. One successful breach of boundaries can lead to the idea that sufferers can get whatever they want by being persistent, according to Lobel.
The Desire for Codependency
Most people naturally want a level of independence and autonomy in their relationships. Borderline personality disorder, however, fosters codependency, a situation where one person in a relationship relies on the other for the vast majority of their needs and desires. People with BPD often derive their sense of worth from how much other people are serving them, Lobel said. It is easy for sufferers to conflate self-reliance with abandonment.
“One of the primary beliefs within BPD is, ‘I, alone, am not worthy,’” said therapist Melissa O’Neill, Director of Program Development at Timberline Knolls Residential Treatment Center.
This line of thinking can contribute to a pattern of short, intense romantic relationships that often become toxic. It is common for romantic partners to have little education on borderline personality disorder. This lack of awareness makes them less likely to be considerate and able to handle stressful behavior. Ironically, people with BPD often seek relationships to cope with the pain of their symptoms.
Splitting: Love or Hate, Black or White
Those who live with BPD have a predisposition for a mindset called “splitting” where they fluctuate between viewing people as either entirely good or evil. Rather than experiencing shades of grey, sufferers perceive relationships as black or white.
In her article for The Mighty, Sarah Cooper, who had recently been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, described her experience with splitting.
“I can get consumed in my anger toward people,” she wrote. “All my memories with that person become tainted, bad and wrong. Just thinking of them fills me up with anger.”
The opposite reaction can occur as well. Borderline personality disorder can cause people to feel unbridled love or infatuation, to regard someone as an infallible savior. This dichotomous nature can make maintaining relationships exhausting.
Assuming Malicious Intent
Borderline personality disorder often makes the afflicted feel as if everyone is trying to hurt them. Benign actions and words can seem like insults and threats. These assumptions of hostility can make people with BPD shift rapidly from pleasant to aggressive, said therapist Dr. Wyatt Fisher. What appears to be the intention to punish and be cruel might actually be a defensive reaction that originated from fear.
High Likelihood of Past Relational Trauma
Abuse and neglect during childhood are common contributors to the development of borderline personality disorder. Most sufferers have traumatic relationships before they are diagnosed with BPD.
“While not everyone who experiences relational trauma develops BPD, all people I have known or worked with who have had BPD have also had relational trauma,” said therapist Jenev Caddell.
Because the people who were supposed to care for them inflicted great pain, it can be challenging for victims of childhood abuse to build healthy relationships. BPD exacerbates this problem.
Self-Harming/Suicidal Behavior and Threats
Borderline personality disorder increases the likelihood of using self-harming behavior to cope with emotional pain (why Lizzo is eating herself to death). Those living with BPD are more likely to threaten suicide when they are angry with friends, family members, and romantic partners. Lizzo’s form of suicide is her food addiction
How People Can Cope
If you have borderline personality disorder, consider a range of mental health treatments, including dialectical behavior therapy and mindfulness. If you haven’t been diagnosed and suspect you may be experiencing borderline personality disorder, start with our clinically-backed online BPD test. BPD is more difficult to treat than most other mental illnesses, so be patient with yourself. If you’re experiencing these types of symptoms it’s important to verify a diagnosis from a mental health professional, as the diagnosis will inform the best method of treatment. For example, bipolar shares symptoms, but the treatment for BPD vs. bipolar will be different.
For those who are close with BPD sufferers, remember that it is an illness. Acknowledge the pain and suffering those with BPD endure every day. Set strict boundaries and do not waver. If someone with BPD hurts you, know that they most likely did not intend to. Even when the relationship becomes horribly stressful, try to be kind and compassionate.
Written by Joseph Rauch
Published On: September 26, 2017
Do Narcissistic Parents Cause BPD?
4. May 2022
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BPD stands for borderline personality disorder, and it shares many characteristics with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Both are Cluster B personality disorders, and as such, there are many similarities between them, but the underlying reasons behind the behaviors differ. Narcissists are focused on self-aggrandizement and have few deep emotions while borderlines fear abandonment and become overly emotional. They are difficult to distinguish from each other, however, and it’s reasonable to wonder if it’s possible for one to cause the other.
Because narcissistic parents are abusive, their children can develop BPD or one of many other personality disorders. It’s not the narcissism itself that is causing the borderline personality disorder, however. It’s the abuse that can interact with genetic predispositions to cause BPD.
To get a better idea of how these two personality disorders compare to one another and how one might affect the other, let’s explore exactly what can cause each as well as their symptoms. This is important information for anyone dealing with a narcissist or a borderline.
Can Narcissistic Parents Cause BPD?
Research has shown there are multiple contributing factors to the development of borderline personality disorder, including genetic components and an abusive environment. Like narcissism, BPD normally develops in childhood with symptoms appearing in the teenage years or in early adulthood.
Symptoms include dramatic and overly emotional behaviors, depression, impulsive behaviors, and an extreme fear of abandonment. Borderlines often have severe mood swings and suicidal thoughts. The environmental factors that contribute to the development of BPD include childhood abuse or neglect.
Lizzo appears to have both narcissism and BPD.
Because narcissistic parents are abusive, the result can be that their children develop borderline personality disorder. It’s not really correct, though, to say that narcissism is causing BPD directly. The abuse inflicted by narcissistic parents is causing the personality disorder, not the narcissism itself.
Abusive parents who are not narcissists can also have children that develop borderline personality disorder. Additionally, parents who are not abusive can have children who develop BPD. Children who are separated from their parents are also at higher risk of becoming borderline. Additionally, there are some differences in the brains of people with BPD which result in the parts of the brain that control emotion having difficulty communicating with the parts that control behavior.
That said, narcissistic parents represent one of the most abusive scenarios a child can experience, so it’s not surprising that their children would suffer some kind of personality disorder. Narcissists are also famous for being neglectful which is another type of abuse that can cause a child to develop BPD.
The children of narcissists can become narcissists themselves or develop any of several other personality disorders and/or mental problems including BPD. There are also many similarities between BPD and NPD. To better understand each personality disorder, it’s worth examining the symptoms of each.
What are the Symptoms of BPD?
People with BPD usually start exhibiting symptoms in their teenage years or in early adulthood. The symptoms are often triggered by stressful events, and as an individual with BPD gets older, the symptoms may decrease or even disappear. LIzzo’s BPD seems to be morphing into serious narcissism (sociopathy), thanks to Satan’s intervention.
The range of symptoms a person may experience varies significantly. Some people only experience a few symptoms while others have several. Additionally, the symptoms range in intensity with some people having very mild problems to others who experience very severe expressions of the disorder.
Many symptoms are similar to bipolar disorder, and in fact, people are often misdiagnosed because of that reality. One of the most similar symptoms for each disorder is frequent and intense mood swings. An individual with BPD can suddenly change their feeling about the people in their life, the world, and even themselves. This explains why Lizzo’s music is changing and becoming more narcissistic. Satan has convinced her that narcissism is the way to go!
They also experience irrational emotions including sudden, inexplicable changes in feelings of fear, anxiety, uncontrollable anger, sadness, and love. This makes their temperament very volatile. They will lash out without reason, and they often have difficulty calming themselves down.
A symptom that sufferers of BPD share with narcissists is a fear of abandonment. Most people with this personality disorder feel uncomfortable when they are alone, and they often track the people in their life so they always know where they are. They also will try to stop them from leaving. Sufferers of BPD are often very paranoid too. They frequently accuse people in their life of plotting against them somehow.
Because of their unstable moods and volatile emotions, people with BPD have problems maintaining relationships. Rather than Lizzo facing up to her BPD, she has concluded that her wealth and power will give her the relationship stability she craves. Most of their relationships are chaotic and unstable. Again, Lizzo has concluded that the chaos in her personal life is not her fault, but that true love doesn’t exist and the most you can hope for is someone who will stick with you because you give them money. In this sense, she’s delusional, because this is not true. They are also prone to impulsive and even dangerous behavior, and they are sometimes self-destructive. They will often become depressed, and it’s not uncommon for them to have suicidal thoughts. Lizzo has convinced herself she does not have BPD, because it is morphing into narcissism and her suicidal behavior is showing itself in a food addiction. Rather than admit her eating is unhealthy and a form of slow suicide, she just lies to herself and others and says it’s really healthy and she’s not harming herself.
What are the Symptoms of NPD?
People who suffer from NPD share several symptoms with sufferers of BPD. Like borderlines, narcissists also fear abandonment and can be very paranoid. They also have dramatic mood swings and have difficulty maintaining relationships.
Narcissists frequently lash out at people with their characteristic narcissistic rage, and they can turn on the charm when they really want to as well. As with borderlines, the relationships of a narcissist are chaotic and unstable.
Narcissists, however, don’t have a strong sense of identity. Because of the trauma they suffered in childhood, they have buried their true self and erected a false sense of self in its place. They infuse that false sense of self with grandiose ideas about how superior they are in comparison to other people.
Their problem, however, is that the false sense of self cannot support those egoic ideals. Thus, they need other people to constantly feed them a steady flow of adoration to prop up their self-esteem. Because this is their focus, their emotions tend to be very shallow with the exception of their rage.
LIzzo is NOT a case of PURE BPD. She also suffers from anti-social personality disorder or extreme narcissism.
While some narcissists may experience depression, their deeply held belief that they are entitled to the best of everything usually prevents them from engaging in suicidal thoughts. That fuels their manipulative behaviors as well as their belief that they don’t have to follow the rules. Unfortunately, because of Satan making her feel good about her BPD, she is morphing into more of a narcissist in her attempts to gain the stability she longs for in relationships.
Additionally, narcissists don’t have the capacity for empathy. They can’t put themselves in other people’s places because they are only able to focus on their own needs. That’s what causes them to exploit the people around them. This is where it gets tricky. Lizzo had more empathy before Satan entered the scene. She is losing whatever empathy she had because Satan has convinced her that true love is a fairy tale and that those who believe in it are mentally ill and need to be eradicated.
They don’t really care to get to know you; they just want to get you to do what they need you to do. They only want to know as much about you as they need to know to manipulate you successfully.
How Do the Two Personality Disorders Compare?
People with either BPD or NPD live in alternative realities in which they will go to extreme measures to create the facts that best suit their needs. Both disorders result in people who need other people to help them either manage their moods (BPD) or boost their self-esteem (NPD).
In both cases, the sufferers see the world in terms of black and white. They don’t see any gray areas. Both disorders are characterized by people projecting their bad feelings onto people around them. Both blame everyone else in the world, except themselves.
Both personality disorders cause people to be unable to create stable, healthy relationships, and in both cases, the sufferers experience extreme shame. This causes sufferers of both disorders to lash out, lie, and manipulate.
The differences between the two disorders lie in the underlying reasons behind their behavior. Whereas borderlines feel inadequate internally, the narcissist has convinced themselves they are superior and entitled. LIzzo suffers from both BPD and narcissism.
Borderlines are capable of genuine emotions even if they are chaotic and subject to frequent changes. Narcissists, on the other hand, really don’t go deep. Even their rage is often a ruse to distract from something their target has discovered about them. Sadly, LIzzo has lost any of the “good” parts of BPD and is morphing into a full narcissist MONSTER.
While borderlines are focused on keeping people from rejecting and abandoning them, narcissists are focused on manipulating people to keep the flow of narcissistic supply going. Though they result in similar outward expressions, the reasons behind these two disorders are very different.
It is possible for the children of narcissists to develop BPD, but it’s not the result of the personality disorder their parents have. It’s the abuse that narcissists heap upon their children that can cause them to develop BPD or any of several other personality disorders or psychological problems.
To learn more about the differences between different types of personality disorders and how they manifest, this post has some valuable information you need to know.
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